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Lonesamurai · Apr 22, 2009, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by Hissy

Me too. The moment they are available.

Except that as I understand it you can only have 4 extra tabs... so I'll buy 3 and get the 4th free. Extra tabs are worth far more to me as storage, than char slots or accounts. (I don't run mutliple copies of GW, and I'm sick of moving stuff to mules, and then playing hunt-the-item when I need something).

Nope, its 4 available to buy and 1 free

confirmed by Regina

Smurf Minions · Apr 22, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

So why should i pay $10 for 1 tab, when i can get an account with 4 characters (which is way more space) for $15?

Gli · Apr 22, 2009, 12:32 PM // 12:32

I don't know why you should. I know why I will.

Abedeus · Apr 22, 2009, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by Smurf Minions

So why should i pay $10 for 1 tab, when i can get an account with 4 characters (which is way more space) for $15?

4 characters and one storage tab. And I think that another tab for free.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 22, 2009, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Anduril_0923

Erm . . . if you want to play semantics, don't try to do it with a lawyer. Additionally, you can't use a definition to prove your point without giving the whole definition:

col⋅lect
1 /kəˈlɛkt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuh-lekt] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1. to gather together; assemble: The professor collected the students' exams.
2. to accumulate; make a collection of: to collect stamps.
3. to receive or compel payment of: to collect a bill.
4. to regain control of (oneself or one's thoughts, faculties, composure, or the like): At the news of her promotion, she took a few minutes to collect herself.
5. to call for and take with one: He drove off to collect his guests. They collected their mail.
6. Manège. to bring (a horse) into a collected attitude.
7. Archaic. to infer.

A person or thing that collects. Which requires a definition of collect. (See above.) A person who collects books, paintings, etc, especially as a hobby. And, as I clearly explained in my post, I do not do this as a hobby. I purchase armor and weapons because I need them for a particular task. Game playing is obviously a hobby. But if you want to get technical about that, you're clearly off-topic and should find a different thread to troll.

I still support Dreamwind's premise that additional storage is addressing a game-play issue, not a vanity issue.

First I would like to congratulate you for admitting you are a lawyer, that takes balls these days.

You say that you don't collect as a hobby as you need them to play the game which you claim is a hobby. I still say that your collection is way beyond what most people playing the game need and therefore why not have you pay for the extra space you are using on ANET's server. If you can afford that many armors, you could also choose to change runes for each situation.

Will Atreides · Apr 22, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53

/unsigned

I will buy them when, and if I need them.

I've been playing GW since April 2005 and, for the intitial outlay for all three campaigns, I figure that I've received more than enough value for my money.

If I feel that I really need the extra storage space, I'll gladly pony up the ten bucks.

It's as simple as that.

Coridan · Apr 22, 2009, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I would have paid $10 for them 2 years ago. Game is old and stale and they need to release GW2

Riot Narita · Apr 22, 2009, 01:24 PM // 13:24

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Nope, its 4 available to buy and 1 free

confirmed by Regina

AWESOME. I'll be buying 4 then.

AngelWJedi · Apr 22, 2009, 03:38 PM // 15:38

i think boycotting is a silly idea. but then again so is paying 10 bucks for one pane when as others had said we can buy a char slot or another campain. i know i wont be buying one. but i hope the free tuff lives up to the hype it promised us.

Kula · Apr 22, 2009, 05:35 PM // 17:35

I agree, the OP didn't go the best way about it by using the "boycott" method.

We can just make suggestions, as some have already been doing, like saying to buy separate accounts for way more storage. This is what I did and all I need is my laptop right next to my main pc to transfer stuff.

alluring athena · Apr 22, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Only a fool would argue that $10 is not overpriced

1 Storage Tab - 20 slots
Cost: $10

1 Character Slot
After the update each character will have up to
* Backpack - 20 slots
* Belt Pouch - 5 slots
* Bag No. 1 - 5 or 10 slots
* Bag No. 2 - 5 or 10 slots
* Bag No. 3 - 5 or 10 slots
Max total - 55 slots
Cost: $10

If you have no issue with paying the same amount for less than 1/2 the number of slots then that is your choice.

A fair price would be $5 each or less

Just because there are some people who are willing to pay $10 doesn't mean you should charge $10. There is probably some people out there (albeit very few) who would be willing to pay $100 each...maybe to support the developers and because they can afford to.... who knows

If you sell
1000 Storage Tabs @ $10 ea = $10,000
but if you sell
5000 Storage Tabs @ $5 ea = $25,000

Storage is shared by all characters account-wide
Doesn't matter how many characters you have you will only get 20 slots per account per $10 storage tab upgrade.
Spend $40 for Storage tabs = 80 slots (shared by all characters)

Spend the same $40 for character slots = 220 slots

The choice is clear
with current pricing...
Character slots > Storage Tabs

FengShuiDove · Apr 22, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by alluring athena

If you sell
1000 Storage Tabs @ $10 ea = $10,000
but if you sell
5000 Storage Tabs @ $5 ea = $25,000

And if the processing charge for each transaction is $5, then

1000 tabs @ $10 each = $5000
5000 tabs @ $5 each = $0

Overhead sucks. I could be bothered to graph a function of the cost of overhead versus profit in this situation but it's a rather moot point. One of the most major efforts in profit-making (and one of the simplest operations you'll learn in Business Calculus) is is finding the maximum value of a graph of profit. As price increases, sales decrease, but as price decreases below a certain value profit per sale is negligible. The trick is finding the sweet spot. Especially concerning new content in an old game, I'd try for a higher price initially and gauge the success of that set of values, $persale vs. sales.

alluring athena · Apr 22, 2009, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

And if the processing charge for each transaction is $5, then

1000 tabs @ $10 each = $5000
5000 tabs @ $5 each = $0

Overhead sucks. I could be bothered to graph a function of the cost of overhead versus profit in this situation but it's a rather moot point. One of the most major efforts in profit-making (and one of the simplest operations you'll learn in Business Calculus) is is finding the maximum value of a graph of profit. As price increases, sales decrease, but as price decreases below a certain value profit per sale is negligible. The trick is finding the sweet spot. Especially concerning new content in an old game, I'd try for a higher price initially and gauge the success of that set of values, $persale vs. sales.

Good point

However we don't know the cost of overhead which would be helpful for accurate sales and profit numbers.

Only point I can add is that customers would most likely be more inclined to purchase all 4 storage tabs at once at $5 each than at $10 each. So the overhead would be for only one transaction in that case.

Obrien Xp · Apr 22, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

And if the processing charge for each transaction is $5, then

1000 tabs @ $10 each = $5000
5000 tabs @ $5 each = $0

PWND

They need to make it $10. (I know its just an estimate but its nice)

/closeprettypleaseorI'llREDENGINEGOREDENGINEtrollsp az

Crom The Pale · Apr 22, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I think Anet based their price on only a small number of sales.

Let's be perfectly honest, how many people would actually purchase the slots, disregarding price?

1000?
Out of how many active accounts, 100 000?

I would bet they did a feasibility study and found that lowering the price wouldn't generate a significant increase in sales.

Gift3d · Apr 22, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I completely agree with you that that is overpriced, but a boycott has no chance in hell of working. This is the result of ANet being sued for that engine ordeal, i'm pretty sure.

Obrien Xp · Apr 22, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

I completely agree with you that that is overpriced, but a boycott has no chance in hell of working. This is the result of ANet being sued for that engine ordeal, i'm pretty sure.

Never heard of that unless it was the worlds.com thing.

I'm waiting for "Confessions of an ex-anet employee" to show up soon though the url got blocked from posting. (Read it and its bull, if he wasn't lying he couldn't be sued and could actually use a name).

FengShuiDove · Apr 22, 2009, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by alluring athena

Only point I can add is that customers would most likely be more inclined to purchase all 4 storage tabs at once at $5 each than at $10 each. So the overhead would be for only one transaction in that case.

I'd sign for this. If the cost of a single transaction is $xx, so prices are marked above $xx for that very reason to $yy, then buying in bulk should be rewarded with a discount of $xx per additional element included in the transaction. In fact, that's something I see happening in the future, 1 tab always $10, but perhaps 2 tabs for $15 and 3 for $20 or... something along those lines.

Junato · Apr 22, 2009, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I have an idea! Why don't they just put up a Donations fund that has to do with projects that will benefit all of us. Also, they should have a progress bar on how far they are to getting to fund that project.

I see some advantages. Some people would donate mass amounts of money. The only downside are the players that really don't contribute.

Yawgmoth · Apr 22, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47

If you believe that the transaction processing cost is $5 or anywhere close to that you must be VERY naive and probably believe in a lot of bs you hear everyday on TV or read on the net. Shame... and your loss.

Look, there are some upgrades in the store that cost $5 to purchase, they're surely NOT giving them away for free or near free.